- Let us commence.
- I'm Jeon Hyun-moo, the chairman of borderless youth committee, Non-summit.
- I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon.
- I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung.
We're Jeon Yoo-sung.
- Our faces are really puffy
because we came here in a rush.
We rushed here.
- This is not our usual filming day,
but we've gathered urgently.
- Following Simon Pegg's appearance,
another global star has visited our show.
- He is the zombie-killing Korean
in America's favorite TV-series, Walking Dead.
He also went to Cannes for his performance in the movie 'Okja' by Bong Joon-ho.
Please welcome global celebrity actor, Steven Yeun.
- Could you introduce yourself?
- My name is Steven Yeun.
That's pretty much it.
- That's the most important thing.
That's the most important thing.
"I'm an actor in the US".
- "I live in America, and that's pretty much it."
- Nice.
- It's nice.
- Why did you decide to come on our show?
- We'll ask some personal questions too.
- That's okay too.
- Let's talk about your family first.
Are you all familiar with him?
- Who watched Walking Dead?
- Personally, it's an honor to meet him.
Walking Dead is one of the most-loved
TV-series in America.
Glen's character is particularly popular,
because it's fascinating to watch this character grow
from a boy into a man in each episode.
It was great.
- How long did it take you to film all the seasons?
- It took 7 years.
- That's a long time... - It's like you're really aging with the show.
- It takes a year for each episode.
- I also saw his appearance on a comedy show,
and it was hilarious.
What comedy show was it?
- He was on the Conan show,
where they go to a sauna in K-Town.
- I think I saw it.
- Are those your regular activities?
Eating Korean food in K-Town?
- Oh, Korean food?
- Or going to a sauna.
- I love Korean food.
I sometimes go to K-Town.
I used to go to Korean saunas,
but after the Conan show, I can't go anymore.
- That was funny.
- I heard Walking Dead is popular in Japan.
- It's really popular in Japan.
- Yes.
- He even appeared on the news
for getting married and having a baby boy in March.
- That's a very personal question.
- That's how famous he is.
- People must think that he is an American,
but he immigrated to Canada first.
Right?
- Yes.
-Yes. So...
- Why is that important?
- Not all Hollywood actors are American.
Actually, I have a question.
Do you still have your Canadian citizenship?
- I didn't get my Canadian citizenship.
- That's a personal question.
- Since it seems like you're all fans,
we'll give you a quick time to ask questions.
- We often hear the word 'white washing' in Hollywood these days,
which is where a Caucasian actors play roles that are originally Asian.
I wonder what it takes for Asian actors
to succeed in Hollywood. - I'm curious.
- It's changing.
- Nice.
- I think it might be hard to keep plot secrets from your family.
Do you ever tell spoilers to your wife?
- Telling spoilers to his wife...
- Shouldn't you tell your wife?
- And the wife telling a friend.
- I just don't talk about it.
- I usually talk a lot.
- So you refrain yourself.
- I'm not refraining though.
- This might be a spoiler, but...
Is it possible that
you might revive in Season 8?
- Never say never.
- Can I say it?
- Since all of you watched Walking Dead,
didn't you ever imagine on your own,
if you could survive in a situation like Walking Dead?
Taking free food from convenience stores,
and fighting zombies.
Do you think it's better to try your best to run away from the zombies,
or just to get bitten from early on.
- I wonder what Steven thinks.
- You never know if the zombie world might be good or bad.
- The zombie world?
- You never know.
Zombies are simple-minded.
- Always hanging out in groups.
- They have a lot of friends.
- Easily entertained by a noise.
- So I hope I just get bitten.
- You want to get bitten?
- But I like characters that fight until the end in zombie movies.
Like 'Train to Busan'. - Right.
- I actually thought of a plan in case of a zombie attack.
I would first go to the Hwaseong Fortress in Suwon.
- The Hwaseong Fortress in Suwon?
- The Hwaseong is the perfect structure
to fight against the zombies.
- Like this.
- All the survivors can gather there.
- I think you're underestimating the power of zombies.
They'll go over the fortress.
- Let's officially commence the discussion.
Could you tell us the agenda?
- He came up with this agenda
because he's in movies that transcends countries, ethnicities and cultures.
- Was there a time when you had
difficulties communicating in Hollywood?
- I'm Korean,
But...
- But he's not a good translator.
So the Korean people don't understand him
while the Americans just think of him just as a Korean person.
- It's a lonely character.
- Not belonging anywhere.
- When you're the main character.
- I'm an Asian person, so when the make-up artist is doing my make-up,
the make-up needs to compliment my skin tone.
- Do you tell the staff then?
To light you in a certain way.
- I went to America in 1988.
So that's how I was taught
and I didn't want to raise any issues.
- Koreans tend to just hold it in...
- We have a culture of just holding it in.
- It's different in America though.
- Right.
But..
The time has changed too.
So all of that...
- Okay. - Okay.
- This is today's agenda.
Let's begin the official debate with the agenda,
"I think that even though our languages are different, we can still communicate and
understand each other. Am I unusual?"
- Please press the button if you think it's unusual.
- 3, 2, 1.
Please press the button.
- Why is it unusual?
- You can communicate a little,
but it's hard to communicate on a deeper level.
I was on a train that crosses the Siberia once,
and the train attendant came up to me and asked me something.
I couldn't understand a word, so I just said " okay".
- When you didn't even understand.
You should be careful with saying "okay".
- I said okay and this woman
walked in with a huge bulldog.
I sat there for 30 hours.
- But you got a good memory.
If you said no, you wouldn't have that memory.
- That's a memory, not communication.
- Wow, Wang Simlin.
- I think you need to speak the same language
for communication on a deeper level.
In China, it is impolite to
eat food that's placed in front of someone else.
You just have to eat food that's in front of you.
One time, I visited my friend's house,
and the only thing in front of me was kimchi.
I didn't want to be impolite, so I just ate the kimchi in front of me.
So my friend's mom thought that I loved the kimchi,
and he kept refilling the kimchi.
So I kept eating it.
I was so frustrated because I couldn't tell her.
- I have a friend from Singapore
that's dating a Korean person.
Those two really click even though they speak different languages,
because they love each other and have been together for a long time.
So I think communication is possible. - Although it might not be deep.
- You can tell just by looking at their eyes.
- It's like how little babies don't speak,
but parents can understand.
I think communication is done through feeling,
rather than languages.
- My baby is 10 months old,
but it's hard to understand what my baby is trying to say...
- It's not communication.
- When feeding the baby,
he keeps pointing somewhere else.
- I heard your baby is 3 months old.
- Yes, he's 3 months old.
- A 10-month old baby.
Can you communicate with them?
- Yes.
He doesn't cry as much now.
He just screams now.
So...
He goes like "Mehhh!" when he's hungry,
so I feed him then.
But...
- That's how all the dads are like.
- "He's a genius."
- Because he speaks so well.
- Isn't there a scene in 'Okja' where
a girl communicates with a pig?
- What do you think?
Who would you like to communicate with other than humans?
- I have to pet dogs.
I can relate to that.
- Aren't they just hungry?
- No.
That's the best thing about having pets.
They know when you're sad.
- That's right.
- I saw a picture of a big dog
cheering up someone who's in sorrow.
- A dog?
- There was a picture like that.
- Communication is done through
many means other than languages.
Let's talk about how communications are achieved
in different countries.
- You can easily see the raised blocks in Korea.
- The yellow blocks.
- The yellow blocks on the road.
It was invented by a Japanese person.
- Really?
- A person named Seiichi Miyake
met someone who can't see well.
He walked on the streets with his eyes closed to see what it's like for his friend,
and it felt so dangerous.
- It's scary.
- So he made the raised block for his friend.
It started in Japan in 1967 and
it spread out to 150 countries.
- In the old days when there were no cellphones,
they communicated with each other by showing scarves on the rooftop.
They would decide what each color means.
This color means this,
and that color means that.
- Oh, from far away.
- That's what they did.
When men proposed to women,
they would look at the women like this,
but the women were very shy
so they would accept the proposal by twisting the end of the scarf.
The men would understand
that the women accepted the proposal.
Just by looking at that.
- Even when they don't speak.
- Italians are famous for
making a lot of hand gestures.
- Gestures?
- We always move our hands when we talk.
We even make gestures with the other hand when we're talking on the phone.
For real.
There are so many gestures that you can make,
and people from other countries will never understand.
- Can we learn a little?
- For example, there's this.
- What is that?
- Are you sick?
- Dab, dab.
- I don't like it.
- It's almost like a sign language.
- Why are you looking at me while doing that?
- And there's this.
- What is that?
- Shaving.
- I like it.
- I don't care.
- This has different meanings, but we use this the most.
- A psycho?
- Doesn't that mean a fool?
- This means "Let's talk later".
- Right.
- You can use it in a negative way or to hit on girls.
For example, if you fought with a girl,
you can say "Let's talk later".
Or if you like someone sitting at another table,
you can do this.
- And the other woman goes like this.
I don't care.
I don't care so let's talk later.
- We use this a lot.
- What is this?
Are you angry?
- This usually means "What are you talking about?".
"No way."
So you see soccer players using this gesture a lot.
- They do.
- When the referee calls a foul,
the players goes "No way".
- So it's not a swear word.
- We use this a lot too. - What is that?
Does this mean "No way" too? - No way.
This is the most basic one.
There are a couple different gestures for saying "It's delicious".
You go like this to a baby.
- Is it delicious?
- Or you do this.
This means "It's delicious".
If something is really good,
you go like this.
- Although not as much as the Italians,
Americans use a lot of hand gestures too.
How is it?
- That's something we never do in Korea.
In Korea, we bow our heads down like this,
but in the US, you raise your chin up.
- It feels nice. - Yes.
- I think a lot of people do that,
and there's no need to say "Hi".
- Even to someone you don't know?
- No, to someone you know.
- If you do that to someone you don't know, it's like starting a fight.
- That's what I did.
When I met Kim Jo-Han after a long time, he tried to fist bump me
and I went like this. He looked so surprised.
- In Japan, raising your pinky means
that you have a girlfriend or boyfriend,
but I heard it's a really bad thing to do in China.
- Really?
What does it mean in China?
- It means that you're not helpful,
and you're a useless person.
- A useless person?
- Does it have a sexual meaning? - Yes.
When used between men, it means that he has a small private part...
- I lived in China when I was little, and my dad and I went to McDonalds
to order 2 hamburgers for us.
The employee kept asking him if he was sure and he said yes.
We actually ended up getting 8 burgers.
- It's because my dad went like this,
which means 8 in China.
- Start with 1, 2, 3, 4.
-1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.
- How do you do 9?
- That's almost like a sign language.
- Everyone uses this in markets.
- If you want to buy 9 dumplings, you would just go like this.
9 is like this.
- That's cool.
- This means "OK" in Korea,
but it actually means
the number 0 in Canada.
Raising up your thumb means "OK".
When you guys asked if I had a lot of debt...
- I've been ripped off before.
- So you don't have a lot of money right now.
- I have a lot of debt.
- Right now?
- I thought that was weird.
You seemed so happy.
- I was just saying "Yes". - Oh, I see.
So you worked with Director Bong Joon-ho,
and his nickname is Bong-tail,
because he's very detailed.
How was it?
Did you have any difficulties when you were filming?
On top of the language.
- I love when directors are detailed.
- That might better for the actor.
- Director Bong Joon-ho...
He's nice but
have you ever felt tired?
- Like "Why is he so detailed?".
- Or you didn't like the hair style.
- That's...
- It's a meaningful detail.
We actually have him on the phone...
Director Bong.
- Hello?
- Hello.
- Nice to meet you. - Hello.
This is 'Non-summit'.
- Nice to meet you.
I'm Bong Joon-ho.
- Nice to meet you.
- Hello.
- Si-kyung, we met a couple years ago, right?
- We had a deep conversation.
- Don't you remember me?
I interviewed you once.
- Oh, yes. Nice to meet you.
- So cruel.
- Steven Yeun is here with us today.
- Yeun Sang-yeop.
- Yeun Sang-yeop...
That's his real name.
- Was there a special reason
why you casted Steven Yeun for 'Okja'?
- Because he's an excellent actor.
Plus, he can speak Korean and English.
- There are many bilingual actors out there.
So there must've been a unique charm of Steven Yeun.
- Steven Yeun has been complimenting
you all this time.
- Please go on.
- Yeun Sang-yeob is cute and sexy.
- Cute and sexy.
- He has sexy eyes.
- That's the best compliment.
- Even guys will like him.
- Let's stop there.
- Are there differences between Korean actors and Hollywood actors?
Was there a time when you found it difficult to communicate with
Hollywood actors because they're different from Korean actors?
- Not really.
All the directors around the world are pretty similar.
However, there are many US union rules
that stipulates various things like filming hours and more...
- That's right.
- For example, there is a specific rule that
prohibits directors from talking directly to supplementary actors and extras.
However, it's not too complicated and once you get the hist of it,
you can proceed as usual.
- Whereas Korean actor will go 30 minutes over the scheduled time
to get that last scene,
I heard that Hollywood actors
will just say "Bye" and leave after the scheduled time.
How was Steven?
- Steven must've had a hard time
in between the border of Korean and Hollywood actors.
- That's right.
- If he stayed for the extra scene, his colleagues might've blamed him
but if he left, the director might have been disappointed.
- It's complicated. - He must've had a hard time.
- He was loved by everyone.
- Thank you,
for saying good things about me.
Thank you.
- Please say something to our viewers
who are highly anticipating the movie 'Okja'.
- It's a pig movie.
- A pig movie.
- A lovely pig movie. - It sounds really interesting.
- Babe 2.
- I hope you will enjoy Steven's performance
while watching 'Okja'.
- Thank you.
- So kind.
- Thank you, director.
- Thank you.
- Steven, what do you think is the most important factor in communication?
- Are you planning to do more work in Korea?
- Or is there anyone other directors or actors other than Director Bong
that you want to work with in Korea?.
- There are many great actors and directors here in Korea.
I love Lee Chang-dong, Park Chan-wook, Kim Ji-woon and Na Hong-Jin.
I really enjoyed 'The Wailing'.
Since there are more connections with Hollywood,
I think there will be more opportunities now.
- Which actors do you want to work with?
Korean actors.
- My favorite Korean actor is Song Kang-ho,
but I don't want to work with him.
- Why not?
- I might look really bad compared to him.
- What was your favorite movie of Song Kang-ho?
- My favorite movie was 'Secret Sunshine'.
- Secret Sunshine.
- He does an amazing job in that movie.
- You watched 'Secret Sunshine'.
- Yes.
- How was it being on this show today?
- We don't have this in the states...
Because people don't understand each other
which causes this problem.
- Thank you.
- Lastly, can you say something
to our viewers who are waiting for your movie?
- We'll quickly adjourn the emergency Non-summit.
- Let's adjourn.
- Thank you.
- Before inviting our Korean representative,
let me introduce some new representatives.
We have a female representative for China.
Please introduce yourself.
- Hello.
Hello.
My name is Ginger Jiang and I'm a Miao female from China.
I came to Korea because I fell in love with Korean dramas,
and it's been 5 years since I came here.
- Which drama did you like the most?
- 'Autumn In My Heart'.
I loved that drama.
- Do you want to see?
- I want to see.
- How much do you need?
- What is that?
- Wang Simlin is our Chinese representative on the show.
How do you think he's doing?
- I think he's doing okay telling the stories in China,
but China is a huge country,
so I think situations can vary in different regions.
Also, females might have different opinions
so there might be a misunderstanding.
I'll try my best to speak for
the women in China.
- Okay.
- We also have a representative from Morocco in Northern Africa.
Let's welcome Oumayma.
- Hello.
I'm Oumayma and I'm from Marrakesh in Morocco.
Since Korea is famous for civil engineering technology, I came to Korea to study
Civil and Environmental Engineering in Seoul National University.
- Thank you.
- I heard it's the Ramadan right now.
- Yes, that's right.
You know well.
- So you're fasting.
- It's been 2 weeks since Ramadan started,
and I've been enjoying it.
Ramadan isn't too difficult.
- Our last guest.
- It's the French representative, Marine.
- Hello.
My name is Marine.
I like figure skating and Kim Yu-Na very much,
so I ended up coming to Korea.
- Do you like anything else about Korea?
- People in Korea move really fast,
but in France, everyone takes their time
and moves really slow.
I tend to be a little impatient,
so living in Korea is perfect for me.
- I can see that from the way you talk really fast.
- Have you seen Aurélien on our show?
- Yes, I did. - How is he?
Do you think he represents France well?
- Yes, I think he does appearance-wise.
- Okay.
With high hopes from our three female representatives,
let's begin today's Non-summit.
She turns fashion terrorists into fashion leaders,
celebrity superstar, Han Hye-yeon.
- Hello.
- Nice to meet you.
- Hello.
- Wow, so fancy.
I thought you were a representative for Morocco.
- Thank you.
- Hello.
I'm Stylist Han Hye-yeon.
Nice to meet you.
- We called you a celebrity stylist,
and there's a reason why.
Song Hye-kyo, Gong Hyo-Jin, So Ji-sub and Han Hye-Jin...
These are the celebrities you styled, right?
- Yes, there are those that I'm working with now...
- Like who?
- And there are many celebrities that I worked with previously.
It's been a while since I styled for a celebrity.
- Do you find that different countries have difference fashion styles?
- Yes.
If you go to Northern Europe,
they have a distinct look that is based on the climate.
For example, they layer their clothes well.
If you go to countries with hotter climates, you'll see bold colors,
and they'll style for the hot weather.
- Guillaume's fashion...
- Yes, yes.
But...
- When he's not even a hot country.
Wearing bold color in such a cold country.
- T-shirt and shorts.
- Si-kyung, you and I are no different.
- He keeps mentioning Si-kyung.
- I can't deny it.
- I think there are exceptions though.
Men in Italy have great fashion sense.
They make the formal
look so effortless.
- Is it true that Germans have bad fashion sense?
- It depends on which region.
They have good fashion sense in places like Mitte,
but as you go near the countryside, it gets a little more organic.
- Organic.
What's an organic look?
- What's an organic look? - You dress carelessly.
- Not really...
- Hyun-moo wears matching top and bottom with a giant logo on it.
- You must know since you're a professional,
isn't it hip to wear clothes with big logo?
- That's a little...
- You look like someone who got rich too quickly.
- I think it looks better if you wear it confidently,
but it looks like you tried too hard...
There might be mixed reviews.
- It's like the clothes are wearing you.
- Even the clothes want to run away.
- If you do everything in moderation...
- It's too much.
- I'm sorry.
- Okay.
- We have a special agenda today.
- The agenda for 155th Non-summit.
It has been raised by Han Hye-yeon.
-I'm raising this agenda
as a Gold Miss in Korea.
Am I unusual to live a happy life without getting married?
- Without getting married.
- We ask that question a lot in Korea,
"Are you married or not?".
It's a very private question.
They even ask "How come you're not married?".
- As if there's something wrong with you.
- It's not that you can't get married
but you choose not to get married
for your own life.
Hye-yeon, do you choose to be single?
- I missed the timing to get married because of my work,
but there are more single people around me than married people.
In our industry.
So I don't particularly feel
the need to get married.
- The word single implies that
marriage is not necessary but it's a choice.
All of our representatives except for one,
said that marriage is not mandatory.
But there was one person who said that marriage is necessary.
- So someone thinks marriage is necessary?
- The Moroccan representative...
- I guess it's just me.
- I thought it was a monodrama.
- Like a monologue.
- Why do you think so?
- I think you have to get married.
You can't live alone all your life.
You need someone that can understand you
and be on your side when you're going through difficult times.
- The Moroccan people get married early, right?
- Yes, that's right.
Especially women.
So they get married in their early twenties
and the latest at 27 or 28 years old.
- The latest?
- The most latest.
- When is the peak age?
- About 24 years old?
- When are you going to get married?
- You're driving me nuts.
You're turning 25 next year.
- You won't get married until you're 28 years old.
- When do parents start to give up?
- I can relate to it.
- They never give up.
- A lot of women get stressed out about it.
- Even 20 years ago, parents would ask their daughters when they would
get married right after they graduate from university.
- If they're after 30 years old.
- For men, if they get out of the army.
- You get scolded first,
"What are you doing right now?".
A Korean cosmetic brand conducted a survey by asking the question
"Have you ever felt pressured
to married at a certain age?".
63.6% of the female respondents said yes.
And the age that they felt that pressure was 28 and 29 years old for 28.9%
and over 31 years old for 38.4% of the respondents
- You can see that a lot of women
still feel pressured to get married.
Because of this pressure, more women
are visiting matchmakers.
Let's start the official discussion
with the agenda,
"Am I unusual to life a happy life without getting married?".
- Let's see how single people are perceived in each country.
- We used the word single since the 1980s,
and it was always perceived negatively.
So for women who can't get married,
they call them leftovers.
- Leftovers?
- They say you're 'sold' when you're married.
So women that couldn't get married are called leftovers.
- What does it mean in Japanese?
- Is it called 'leftover inventory'?
- Yes, that's right.
- And if you're in your 30s and not married without a child,
they would describe you as a loser.
So single people had really bad reputation.
- Loser? That's harsh.
- But their reputation is slowly changing.
As the number of single women are growing,
there's a new word for them which is 'Ohitorisama'.
It includes the word 'Hitori' which means 'alone' in Japanese .
There's also a word called 'Solojuda'
and it refers to men who are single
yet active and satisfied with their lives.
So the perception is gradually changing.
- I heard that the government receives single people's inheritance.
- Yes, that's right.
There's no one to inherit their money,
because they don't have family.
So the government gets the inheritance.
- It's like a donation then.
- I heard that is almost 1 trillion won. - That's a lot of money.
- In China, people that are not married
can easily become targets.
And...
- What are they called?
- They call women that aren't married
Sheng nu, which means leftover women.
- Leftover women.
- It's similar to Japan.
Yes, leftover women.
- Sheng nan means leftover men.
- Loser.
- Leftover men.
- It's the same in Mexico.
Leftover women and men.
- Do your parents pressure you
about getting married too?
- Yes, a lot.
I talked with my mom for about an hour last week.
My mom always tells me to come home,
find a boyfriend and get married.
But I have a dream to achieve in Korea,
so I want to do that first and then get married after if I meet someone.
- Looking at last year's statistics,
the average age for marriage was 35 for women and 37 for men.
I thought we were getting married early, but I guess not.
People care more about having kids
than getting married.
Especially to women.
I'm not sure about men, but they would ask women questions like
"You're 35 years old and still don't have a child. What are you doing?"
- Even if you're not married? - They're not interested in that.
- "Why are you not having any kids?"
Not even asking about marriage.
- Yes, they don't even ask about marriage.
- In Germany, people don't ask about marriage nor kids.
Only 57% of the people in Germany
wants to get married.
So people don't ask why you're not getting married,
nor think it's strange not to get married.
They use the word LAT a lot these days.
It means Living Apart and Together.
It's like being married, but keeping your own houses.
So if you need a time alone,
you can go back to your house which can be convenient.
That's a new culture in our country.
- In Mexico, people often live together before getting married.
They think this is necessary
because they think that skinship is very important.
- Really?
- Yes.
Because...
- Isn't the word 'Skinship' so funny though?
It's a word commonly used in Korea.
- Yes.
- It's Konglish.
- I asked my friend what 'Skinship' means,
and my friend asked why I didn't know an English word.
I told him it wasn't an English word.
- You're American.
- An American gangster.
- They don't even need the word.
- I think Canada is a good country for single people to live in.
I'm not married yet,
but my parents never told me to get married.
- Never?
- But my mom told me indirectly by asking me
"When can I be a grandmother?".
- Indirectly, indirectly.
- But she didn't tell me to get married.
- It's not like they gave up, right?
- What?
- Gave up...
- They must've given up early.
When I was in high school.
In Canada, you can live a happy life
without getting married and having children.
There are good government policies
that support single people like Europe.
- Hye-yeon, how do you think
non-married people are perceived in Korea?
- It's still a new thing in Korea,
so many people are doubtful
as to if you're really not going to get married.
- "Let's see what happens."
"I won't ask any questions yet."
- "You've said it."
"You're not getting married?"
"I'll see if you really don't."
I think it's like this.
- People often say that
those who say that they don't want to get married
gets married the fastest.
- Instead of looking at it
in a positive light,
they're asking questions
on why you're not getting married.
- Like picking on you.
- They look at you in awe at first, but later asks "Why?".
- "Why are you not getting married?"
As if there's a problem with you.
You might choose not to get married
for your own beliefs and situations,
but instead of asking about that,
they talk as if you have some kind of problem.
- According to a survey, 4 out of 10 people in their 20s and 30s
have decided not to get married for financial burdens.
It's very tragic.
- Really?
Even if they want to?
- Not getting married might not be a choice anymore,
but a social suppression nowadays.
Let's see what are some of the factors
that makes marriage difficult in each country.
- There is a singles crisis in China.
- Singles crisis.
- There are so many singles.
In 2015, there were 105 million single men...
- And there were 70 million single women.
So there are about 35 million men that can't find a partner
since there are not enough women.
- Canada's population is 35 million people.
That's...
- A lot of people.
- There are over 100 million singles.
- My Chinese friends always say that
it is difficult for men to get married because there are fewer women,
so women get to choose.
- That's right.
- Increasing number of people in Morocco are not able to get married
because of the marriage costs.
So women pay for all the expenses for the wedding ceremony,
and the men pay for everything else.
So men can get married only when they're financially stable.
- I've told you before that in Mexico,
men pay for the entire marriage cost.
That is our main factor.
- Main factor.
- Can I have one main factor please.
- Main factor is the appetizer...
- Good job.
- It takes a lot of money
just for the proposal.
There is this social rule in Mexico,
that the proposal ring has to cost 3 times the man's monthly income.
- 3 times the monthly income?
- Yes.
So the more the groom earns, the bigger the proposal ring gets.
I have a friend who's Mexican,
and he tried to marry a Korean woman.
The Korean woman didn't know about this rule
but she found out later and became really excited.
Of course, my friend was like "She shouldn't have found out".
- It takes quite a bit of money for the wedding ceremony as well.
Around $10,000?
But our main factor...
Our main factor is...
- That's the word of the day.
Main factor.
- The divorce rate in France is really high at almost 50%.
So the divorce process is very complicated,
and less people fantasize about marriage.
It's like they're already happy as they are with their partners,
so they don't feel the need to get married.
- It doesn't mean you love someone only when you marry them.
- That's right.
- I think the biggest reason in Germany
is because people are too lazy to get married.
- Because they're lazy?
- Because...
- They do look lazy.
- We have a similar case to France, and we have a high divorce rate.
So kids grow up seeing their parents divorce
and they don't believe in true love.
- So sad.
That's the saddest thing we heard today.
"I don't believe in love."
"You'll get divorced anyway."
- I think there's true love,
but marriage is not the answer for true love.
- Not all relationships have to end in marriage to be successful and complete.
- Money is a factor for us as well, but as a sub factor...
- What factor?
- A sub factor
Main and sub.
- What is the sub factor for today?
- Today's sub factor is...
- Please have the main factor.
- But I came for the sub factor.
- The sub factor is that people are too lazy to date someone.
We have the word 'Herbivorous man',
and there is a new word called 'Starving man'.
- 'Starving man'?
- Didn't you make that up?
While herbivorous men will eat grass,
starving men won't eat anything at all.
They're not interested in dating anyone, and they just enjoy their hobbies.
They might visit the 2D world.
- 2D world.
- So there are many Otakus
that like anime characters,
and women on the other hand, become more active.
- Really?
- So it's common for girls to ask out guys now.
Also, many women take charge of their relationships.
- What about you, Ogi?
- I'm a dumpling man, so...
- Aren't you a frozen dumpling man?
- It has been defrosted.
- Many Swiss people choose not to get married
because there aren't many benefits for married people.
You actually have to pay a $500 fee if you get married.
In most situations, married people
have to pay more taxes than non-married people.
In 2016, there was a public vote to reduce taxes for married people,
but 50.8% people voted against it.
- Then why would some people choose to get married?
- It might be due to religious beliefs.
- Due to religious beliefs.
- We have to mention Alberto then.
- That's right.
In the past, there were many religious people in Italy
that placed significance in marriage,
so they got married for religious reasons.
Now, I think the younger generation likes living with their parents.
It costs a lot of money for Italian men to get married.
So even if they have money, cars and a girlfriend,
they like living with their parents.
- They do?
- Honestly, Italian moms like to
stay and look after their kids even when they grow up,
so they prefer to live with their kids.
It's also more convenient for the kids
because their moms
do everything for them.
- What is it like in America?
- The biggest reason in the US is probably because of the career.
As more women are advancing in their career,
they are deciding to get married later.
I highly respect that.
It's the same with men.
- Most of these factors are predictable,
but there was a strange study result.
In the states,
this factor drops the marriage rate.
- According to a study result on the Washington Post,
it was found that with every 1% increase in visiting adult websites,
the marriage rate dropped by 6%.
- Please get married less if they visit adult websites more?
- There was a study result.
- People get a different expectation,
so they might not get married.
- Really?
- No, that's...
- There's internet in Hanok too, right?
- I went to Mark's house and it was so nice - Right?
- It's nice, isn't it?
- His face turned red.
- Why do you think the number of non-married people are growing?
- When I asked the non-married people around me,
financial burden was the biggest reason.
And that feeling of commitment and responsibility
puts psychological pressure on people.
- There are many stylists that aren't married.
Is it because they work with
models and actors,
and they have high expectation?
- Those are beginners.
Some rookie stylists might be like that,
but for experienced stylists like me, we see them as our business partners.
- We analyzed online posts
with the word 'Alone' in it.
Until 2013, the No.1 post was "I hate being alone".
But since 2014, the No.1 post was "I love being alone".
Isn't it fascinating?
- Yes. - Yes.
- Hye-yeon, do you tag stuff like this too?
"I love being alone."
- I don't do that.
- But I think there are a lot of good things about being alone.
- Like what?
- It's only been 3 years since I lived alone.
Living alone is completely different than
being alone because your parents went away on a trip.
There is so much things you can do.
You can invite your friends for a party,
which is something that you can do only when you live alone.
- Or just going away on a trip.
- This is something that we always talk about.
What are the pros and cons of marriage?
- Let's ask Se-yoon.
- Pros and cons of marriage..
- Please tell us pros first.
- It's different for everyone.
My wife gave birth to our baby
right after we got married.
My wife was actually pregnant during the marriage ceremony.
- That's very specific.
- It's still a late born child for our attempts.
- Congratulations.
- Watching my child grow up is like
seeing and understanding my past that I couldn't understand before.
So...
- You're making me jealous again.
- I'm starting to understand the emotions that I didn't understand when I was young,
and my life feels more complete now.
- Wow.
- So cheesy.
- I was really moved by
Se-yoon's status on messenger.
"I'll protect my family."
That's what he wrote.
- My wife made me write that.
- Write it, write it.
- Should I use the emoticon or not?
I don't know if I should say the cons...
- You might say too much.
- I'll tell you the cons with the rapper, Outsider.
- I don't know if this is cons,
but it's that marriage takes a long time to become stable depending on the person.
- For you and your partner to settle down.
- People think that it'll take 1-2 years,
but it's not true.
- I was lucky to meet someone so perfect for me,
but if I didn't meet her...
- It must've been hard.
- Yes, I probably didn't get married at all.
So your partner is really important.
- That's the answer.
I think to myself too that I'm so lucky to have met my wife.
- Yes.
- That's true.
- I'm jealous of my married friends
when I get back from a business trip
and my married friends are like,
"I can't wait to see my wife".
"I can't wait to see my kids."
But I...
- You go to see the white porcelain.
- When I go back to a Hanok after a long day at work,
there's no one to welcome me.
- There's the white porcelain.
- So you have to go online...
- Isn't it logged in 24 hours?
- There's a huge Macbook in Mark's house.
- Right, right.
- So I asked him what he needs it for.
- I just come home alone and play the Korean harp.
- You play the Korean harp?
- That's scary.
- That's so scary.
- Anyway, I'm lonely.
- I don't know what it's like to be married,
but if I have to find a pro.
- If you have to.
If you have to.
- When I'm living alone, there's always leftover food,
but when I live with someone else, there won't be as much leftover food.
- Of, leftover food.
- There won't be any leftovers.
- Whenever you throw away food waste,
you think that it would be nice to live with someone else.
- Shall we talk about cons then?
- Cons.
- For people like me,
who like to clean up and decorate the house...
- Really?
- If you're living with someone,
you can't decorate the house your way.
If your partner likes a simple style,
they might not like having a lot of decorations items.
- There's a way.
If you like cleaning up,
you should be in charge of cleaning after you get married.
If she doesn't like decorating,
you need to find out before you get married.
Go to your girlfriend's house and find out what music she listens to.
- Is that important?
- That's a good excuse.
- One time, I went to an ex-girlfriend's house in Italy,
and she had Michael Bolton's CD.
- Michael Bolton.
- I knew I had to break up with her.
- Why?
What's wrong with Michael Bolton?.
- I feel bad for her.
She didn't even know what she did wrong.
- I feel really bad for Michael Bolton.
- I was just joking, but I'm saying that it's important to find out earlier.
- Since I'm still living with my parents, they nag at me a lot.
And when I lived with my friend during college,
my friend used to nag at me a lot too.
So no matter who I live with,
I think I'll get nagged at a lot.
- But isn't that because they love you?
- That's right.
You might miss someone nagging at you.
- That's the perfect nagging tone.
- It's perfect.
- Honey.
That scared me.
- Hye-yeon, is there a preference by men that you just can't tolerate?
- Something you just can't tolerate.
- Like smell, fashion or preferences.
- What's the most important is sexual preference.
I'm sorry.
- That's important.
- But it's not easy to live with someone
before getting married in Korea.
I get worried if I have different preferences
with my partner.
- Should you just endure it?
- You should.
- I go to a women's university,
so I know women very well.
I think I might get married here in Korea,
but I don't think that the Korean society
is favorable to married women.
I watched the Drama 'My Father Is Strange',
and there was this scene
where a man proposes to a woman,
but she's opposed to the idea.
It's because...
- We're happy already.
- I could relate to that as a French woman.
- What is the wife's role
in the French society?
- That question is...
- It doesn't make sense.
- I think so.
- I'm sorry.
- Sumimasen.
- Nice Sumimasen.
- Overall, the marriage rate is decreasing.
Let's hear about the different policies and businesses
in each country that promotes marriage.
- There's a thing called a blind date tournament in China.
- Is there a winner?
- An event.
- Is it a tournament?
- Single men and women gather at a plaza for blind dates,
but you don't have to go yourself.
Your parents can go for you.
- Your parents?
- Yes.
So parents can choose men and women they want their kids to marry,
and then introduce them to their kids when they get home.
- There is this annual event in Mexico, hosted by the government.
- A group marriage.
So people who come to this event
gets all the paperwork done for free.
Surprisingly in last year's event,
2016 couples showed up.
So this year, people expected 2017 couples to show up.
This didn't happen though.
3400 couples showed up.
So that's how much people are interested in this group marriage.
- We do joint marriages in our country too.
The most famous event is
a festival called Tifawine.
They choose 10 couples in August every year,
and they host free weddings for them,
as well as financial support for
basic household furniture and appliances.
- What are weddings like in Morocco?
- In the old days, wedding ceremonies used to last for 7 days.
For 7 days.
People these days are busier, so they cut it down to 3 days.
- 3 days is what they cut it down to.
- They cut it in half.
- "Let's just do 3 days since we're busy."
- There is a Hammam Day which is two days before the wedding.
On this day, the bride and the female members of the family gather
and give a special milk bath to the bride.
Since milk has this pure image.
- There are marriage consulting firms for Otakus now.
They match Otakus with Non-Otakus.
However, there's an opposite service.
It's called a 'Virtual Wife'.
- Virtual wife.
- It's a hologram.
It talks to you and reads your emotion through a sensor.
- They will text you and wait at home with the lights on.
- Mark said he's lonely.
- How about a virtual wife?
Wearing a hanbok.
- Playing the Korean harp.
- They started selling it this year,
and there's a waiting list for it.
- I think you'll get into it for sure.
If you live by yourself, you talk to yourself while watching the TV.
You talk with the radio and
men will even name their cars and talk to them.
- Yes. - I do that too.
- We even feel attached to objects,
so if you can have a conversation with them, you'll feel attached for sure.
- I want it.
- What is that?
- You have a wife.
- You used to like talking to your phone.
- I like talking with Siri.
Have you ever tried making a farting noise?
- Then what does it say?
- What does Siri say?
- Navigating to Bukhansanseong Fortress.
- Bukhansanseong Fortress
- I don't know.
Sometimes it would say Namhansanseong Fortress.
- Maybe you weren't feeling well.
Increasing number of non-marriage people
are now doing what is called a non-marriage ceremony.
I heard Hye-yeon was really happy to hear this, because of the congratulatory money.
- I didn't know about this before,
and I don't think it's a bad idea.
Since I won't be doing a wedding ceremony,
I think it might be a meaningful event to do a non-marriage ceremony.
- Even the congratulatory song could be something different.
Like "Marriage is a crazy thing".
- By Yang Hee-seung.
- In Mexico, we have divorce parties too.
So I think non-marriage parties are definitely possible.
I think it would be the best to do it in your 40s.
If I was like Mark, I think I would've had my party already.
- why me?
- Because I might choose not to get married.
- In Korea, they ask the question
"Are you married?" or "When are you going to get married?".
But if you do a non-marriage ceremony, they won't ask you.
- Closing the deal.
- "Do not ask anymore."
- If you meet with your relatives after the non-marriage ceremony, they won't bother you.
- Oh right, you're non-married.
- That's a good way.
- I think non-marriage ceremony is really good in a sense that
close friends gather to root for your life decision.
- That's right.
- Let's talk about some of the non-married people
who became very successful in each country.
- A famous non-married woman in America is Oprah Winfrey.
She is one of the most influential women around the world and
she has been dating the same man for 30 years, but she has no plans for marriage.
In an interview, Oprah Winfrey said that
she'll leave her life as a non-married woman.
I respect Ger for that.
Also, there are the Wright Brothers.
- Isn't that too far back in time?
- They were both non-married.
The older brother Wilbur Wright quoted,
"I don't have time for both an airplane and a wife, so I'll just focus on an airplane".
- There's this man named Fukuyama Masaharu,
who used to be called 'Star of the Single' or 'Lord of the Single'.
- He's very good looking.
- He lived single for 46 years,
but he married a famous actress.
- Wow.
- He had many fans, so when he got married,
there was this word 'Fukuyama Loss',
or 'Fukuyama Shock'.
It means that they lost Fukuyama.
So many people left his fan club.
Some people didn't go to work because they lost Fukuyama,
or went to work early because they lost Fukuyama.
In fact, the stock of a company called Fukuyama which had nothing to do with this
went up after this incident.
- Wasn't it similar when Yonsama got married?
- It was similar.
- Do people get shocked
when their favorite stars get married?
- Shock or loss.
But Fukuyama's marriage was particularly shocking because he was the Lord of Singles.
- How can you become a Lord of Singles?
- This might be an old story,
but there was this female novelist in France in the 20th century.
Her name was Simone de Beauvoir.
She was in an open marriage
with another novelist named Sartre.
- What is an open marriage?
- It's similar to dating,
and you can even see someone else.
- Oh, that's why it's called 'Open'.
- They started with a 2-year contract,
and ended up extending the contract
for 50 years until they passed away.
- Without terminating the contract.
- Hye-yeon, can you think of a non-married person who became really successful?
- Since I'm in fashion, I can think of the designer Gabrielle Chanel.
She encountered countless men in her life
yet instead of getting married, she established the legendary Chanel empire.
She might've been a little lonely,
yet she left this great legacy
so I think she lived a successful life.
- That's right.
- There must be a lot of people who chose not to get married,
and the number is probably increasing.
Can you say a word to them?
- I think marriage is a matter of choice.
We now live in an environment where
you can be happy without getting married.
Since age is just a number,
I hope you enjoy your life to the fullest.
- Okay.
- For 155th Non-summit, we discussed the agenda raised by Han Hye-yeon,
"Am I unusual to live a happy life without getting married?".
Gabrielle Coco Chanel, the successful non-married woman who led the
innovation in women's fashion in the 20th century, quoted,
- "Elegance is refusal".
- I thought it was a commercial.
- Coco Chanel was the leader of 20th century fashion,
and Han Hye-yeon is the leader of the 21st century.
That's our conclusion.
How was it coming on the show today?
- I had so much fun today.
After talking with all of you,
I'm glad to know that I'm doing the right thing for myself.
- Okay.
Thank you, Hye-yeon.
- Thank you.
- We'll adjourn the Non-summit.
- Until the day we all reach the summit.
- What is really important is not marriage.
What's important is yourself.
It's you.
- I'm the star of my life.
What are you going to do?
- Is this your first time singing it?
- Tonight, the star is me, it’s me, it’s me~
In my life, the star is me, it’s me, it’s me~.
- Let us adjourn.
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- You can see 5000 fireworks.
- You can ride on the paddle boat,
and eat seafood while watching the sunset.
- It has been acknowledged as a design city.
- It's a little dangerous.
- Hamburg?
- But we have no idea.
- You'll fall in love.
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please welcome musical actors Michael Lee and Ko Eun-sung.
- I think that you can give up a stable job to find what you really like.
I was preparing for med school and I changed my life.
- It's like wearings someone else's clothes.
- If you can't even pay for your rent,
how can you be happy?
- I thought about becoming a musical actor.
I want to debut.
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